riots, that kind of thing. what they use now, there instigating violence, breaking into the homes of people suspected of non-violent crimes, marijuana, cocaine. we're seeing now used for things like reading poker games. so you are not diffusing violence situations and more, you're creating an. john: and this often is ten or 20 guys dressed in black, heavily-armed. >> they look like military. they look like, you know, a unit that would invade a village in iraq looking for insurgents. john: they say we need to do this to make sure the guy does not resist. and if we come in strong that reduces the chance that people will be killed. >> that is a fine argument if you have somebody who presents an immediate threat to other people. the problem is when you use what teams in these tactics, when you kick down doors and break in the home in the middle of the night, you know, even if you have the right house, and this is an actual drug dealer, the first thing they do is reach for the gun.